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	<description>the tale that grew in the telling...</description>
	<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 17:36:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Rogan McGillis</title>
		<link>http://duanestorey.com/2008/03/wordpress-without-borders/#comment-10148</link>
		<dc:creator>Rogan McGillis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Apr 2008 19:30:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have to say this is by far the the coolest plugin I have seen! I can't wait to see this one built. I've been looking for a translator plugin for a while and haven't found any I like that actually function properly. This is going to be really cool... can't wait to see it finished.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to say this is by far the the coolest plugin I have seen! I can&#8217;t wait to see this one built. I&#8217;ve been looking for a translator plugin for a while and haven&#8217;t found any I like that actually function properly. This is going to be really cool&#8230; can&#8217;t wait to see it finished.</p>
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		<title>By: Will</title>
		<link>http://duanestorey.com/2008/03/wordpress-without-borders/#comment-10145</link>
		<dc:creator>Will</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Apr 2008 17:12:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cool idea... I'll be interested to see how long it takes for private newspapers and online journals to implement something like it.

By the way, you've got a bunch of code showing at the bottom of the page :P</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cool idea&#8230; I&#8217;ll be interested to see how long it takes for private newspapers and online journals to implement something like it.</p>
<p>By the way, you&#8217;ve got a bunch of code showing at the bottom of the page :P</p>
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		<title>By: Jai</title>
		<link>http://duanestorey.com/2008/03/wordpress-without-borders/#comment-10142</link>
		<dc:creator>Jai</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Apr 2008 14:49:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Does it... does it work in Klingon?</description>
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		<title>By: WordPress Localization &#187; random process &#124; charlie 2.0</title>
		<link>http://duanestorey.com/2008/03/wordpress-without-borders/#comment-10126</link>
		<dc:creator>WordPress Localization &#187; random process &#124; charlie 2.0</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Apr 2008 00:57:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] This use of Google&#8217;s new AJAX language API with WordPress is absolutely fantastic. I can&#8217;t wait to try my hands at it. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] This use of Google&#8217;s new AJAX language API with WordPress is absolutely fantastic. I can&#8217;t wait to try my hands at it. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Duane Storey</title>
		<link>http://duanestorey.com/2008/03/wordpress-without-borders/#comment-9980</link>
		<dc:creator>Duane Storey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Mar 2008 23:12:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It's not so good with slang.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s not so good with slang.</p>
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		<title>By: jon</title>
		<link>http://duanestorey.com/2008/03/wordpress-without-borders/#comment-9978</link>
		<dc:creator>jon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Mar 2008 23:08:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>chupa mi pinga carajo</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>chupa mi pinga carajo</p>
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		<title>By: Dynamic Translation Of Wordpress Content &#187; the duane storey</title>
		<link>http://duanestorey.com/2008/03/wordpress-without-borders/#comment-9959</link>
		<dc:creator>Dynamic Translation Of Wordpress Content &#187; the duane storey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Mar 2008 03:17:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Duane Storey</title>
		<link>http://duanestorey.com/2008/03/wordpress-without-borders/#comment-9952</link>
		<dc:creator>Duane Storey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Mar 2008 18:57:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As I pointed out up above in the comments, and in my blog entry, this is just a proof of concept to get some ideas.  I totally agree that it shouldn't be all or nothing, and I already pointed out some alternate approaches up above as well.

In terms of the code, there are about a million ways to make it better.  But like I said, I only put in a few hours of work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As I pointed out up above in the comments, and in my blog entry, this is just a proof of concept to get some ideas.  I totally agree that it shouldn&#8217;t be all or nothing, and I already pointed out some alternate approaches up above as well.</p>
<p>In terms of the code, there are about a million ways to make it better.  But like I said, I only put in a few hours of work.</p>
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		<title>By: Steven Wittens</title>
		<link>http://duanestorey.com/2008/03/wordpress-without-borders/#comment-9951</link>
		<dc:creator>Steven Wittens</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Mar 2008 18:54:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So... how does one turn this *off*? Just because my system is set to Dutch doesn't mean I can't read English... and I'd rather not read your blog as a series of badly mangled pseudo-Dutch phrases or be forced to change my entire system language.

Machine translation as a last resort? Sure. But machine translation by default? Horrible idea.

It also seems rather silly that the code for this repeats the same code snippet over and over again with only a single ID changed, instead of just looping over an array of content to translate. It adds 36KB to this page.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So&#8230; how does one turn this *off*? Just because my system is set to Dutch doesn&#8217;t mean I can&#8217;t read English&#8230; and I&#8217;d rather not read your blog as a series of badly mangled pseudo-Dutch phrases or be forced to change my entire system language.</p>
<p>Machine translation as a last resort? Sure. But machine translation by default? Horrible idea.</p>
<p>It also seems rather silly that the code for this repeats the same code snippet over and over again with only a single ID changed, instead of just looping over an array of content to translate. It adds 36KB to this page.</p>
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		<title>By: Duane Storey</title>
		<link>http://duanestorey.com/2008/03/wordpress-without-borders/#comment-9946</link>
		<dc:creator>Duane Storey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Mar 2008 17:02:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yah, it will be optional, or at least the option will be there to view it natively as well.  Thanks for the feedback.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yah, it will be optional, or at least the option will be there to view it natively as well.  Thanks for the feedback.</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan Lumb</title>
		<link>http://duanestorey.com/2008/03/wordpress-without-borders/#comment-9945</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonathan Lumb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Mar 2008 16:42:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, loving this plugin! I've tested it out and it works nice in French, Spanish and Chinese (I have a firefox plugin that switches the user agent around). Translations are slightly dodgy but as you said the meaning is still there! Having said that there are some interesting chinese comments going on here - my girlfriend (who is chinese) was a bit perplexed!

The one thing I would be careful about is forcing the translation on a user - sometimes people would probably just prefer to read the article in english (even if it isn't their native language).

Look forward to seeing this being released!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, loving this plugin! I&#8217;ve tested it out and it works nice in French, Spanish and Chinese (I have a firefox plugin that switches the user agent around). Translations are slightly dodgy but as you said the meaning is still there! Having said that there are some interesting chinese comments going on here - my girlfriend (who is chinese) was a bit perplexed!</p>
<p>The one thing I would be careful about is forcing the translation on a user - sometimes people would probably just prefer to read the article in english (even if it isn&#8217;t their native language).</p>
<p>Look forward to seeing this being released!</p>
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		<title>By: nortypig &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Wordpress Without Borders</title>
		<link>http://duanestorey.com/2008/03/wordpress-without-borders/#comment-9940</link>
		<dc:creator>nortypig &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Wordpress Without Borders</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Mar 2008 08:28:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Duane Story has put together a proof of concept on a self-translating blog using the new Google Ajax Language API - Wordpress without Borders. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Brian</title>
		<link>http://duanestorey.com/2008/03/wordpress-without-borders/#comment-9939</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Mar 2008 08:13:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow!  I changed to Spanish and seeing it translate inline was really, really cool.  Great job with this.  Are you going to be open sourcing the code?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow!  I changed to Spanish and seeing it translate inline was really, really cool.  Great job with this.  Are you going to be open sourcing the code?</p>
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		<title>By: Raul</title>
		<link>http://duanestorey.com/2008/03/wordpress-without-borders/#comment-9938</link>
		<dc:creator>Raul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Mar 2008 07:26:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Por ejemplo, este comentario esta en espanol.

And the rest is in English.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Por ejemplo, este comentario esta en espanol.</p>
<p>And the rest is in English.</p>
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		<title>By: Duane Storey</title>
		<link>http://duanestorey.com/2008/03/wordpress-without-borders/#comment-9934</link>
		<dc:creator>Duane Storey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Mar 2008 00:18:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Do you have spanish chosen as your language backup in your list?  I could make it so that all languages in the list are not translated possibly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do you have spanish chosen as your language backup in your list?  I could make it so that all languages in the list are not translated possibly.</p>
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		<title>By: Duane Storey</title>
		<link>http://duanestorey.com/2008/03/wordpress-without-borders/#comment-9933</link>
		<dc:creator>Duane Storey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Mar 2008 00:17:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yah, I absolutely agree.  This was just a few hours of work.  The main problem is I really don't want to make it so that the theme has to be modified.  I want everyone to be able to download it and simply turn it on.  So with that constraint it's tricky to do what you are proposing, although I agree it has to be done.

Right now I'm leaning towards having a small 20 pixel tall semi-transparent bar at the top that indicates the content has been translated.  By clicking on it, you can go back to the original untranslated-version.  Hopefully that will work for most people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yah, I absolutely agree.  This was just a few hours of work.  The main problem is I really don&#8217;t want to make it so that the theme has to be modified.  I want everyone to be able to download it and simply turn it on.  So with that constraint it&#8217;s tricky to do what you are proposing, although I agree it has to be done.</p>
<p>Right now I&#8217;m leaning towards having a small 20 pixel tall semi-transparent bar at the top that indicates the content has been translated.  By clicking on it, you can go back to the original untranslated-version.  Hopefully that will work for most people.</p>
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		<title>By: Samuel Mikel Bowles</title>
		<link>http://duanestorey.com/2008/03/wordpress-without-borders/#comment-9932</link>
		<dc:creator>Samuel Mikel Bowles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Mar 2008 00:13:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It would be cool if translated comments could be marked somehow (flag icon?). And if the end-user could choose to view a comment in it's original language on the site. For example I speak both English and Spanish and would prefer to read both of those languages without translation even though I have my browser set to English. It would be nice to click an icon to remove translation on a given comment especially if I could quickly identify it's original language. 

Even simply marking that comments have been translated would clarify communication. I could imagine for example a pedantic commenter correcting someone's translated grammar or worse confusion stemming from the assumption that a given commenter meant exactly what they wrote even though we are not reading exactly what they wrote.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It would be cool if translated comments could be marked somehow (flag icon?). And if the end-user could choose to view a comment in it&#8217;s original language on the site. For example I speak both English and Spanish and would prefer to read both of those languages without translation even though I have my browser set to English. It would be nice to click an icon to remove translation on a given comment especially if I could quickly identify it&#8217;s original language. </p>
<p>Even simply marking that comments have been translated would clarify communication. I could imagine for example a pedantic commenter correcting someone&#8217;s translated grammar or worse confusion stemming from the assumption that a given commenter meant exactly what they wrote even though we are not reading exactly what they wrote.</p>
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		<title>By: Tawcan</title>
		<link>http://duanestorey.com/2008/03/wordpress-without-borders/#comment-9927</link>
		<dc:creator>Tawcan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 17:15:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>wow this is cool.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wow this is cool.</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
		<link>http://duanestorey.com/2008/03/wordpress-without-borders/#comment-9926</link>
		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 16:03:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very cool dude...this will be huge.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very cool dude&#8230;this will be huge.</p>
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		<title>By: Lazy</title>
		<link>http://duanestorey.com/2008/03/wordpress-without-borders/#comment-9925</link>
		<dc:creator>Lazy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 14:50:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>you`re right, Duane Storey :) of course.. es macht aber auch viel spaÃŸ und auf deutsch geschrieben klingt mein deutsch auch etwas normaler und nicht so naja bisschen seltsam ;) aber es ist wirklich innovativ.. ich seh schon foren plugins kommen, blog plugins, das Ã¼bliche.. vielleicht wirds ein trend werden, wer weiÃŸ.. ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you`re right, Duane Storey :) of course.. es macht aber auch viel spaÃŸ und auf deutsch geschrieben klingt mein deutsch auch etwas normaler und nicht so naja bisschen seltsam ;) aber es ist wirklich innovativ.. ich seh schon foren plugins kommen, blog plugins, das Ã¼bliche.. vielleicht wirds ein trend werden, wer weiÃŸ.. ;)</p>
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